hahahaha whoops yea totally passed over that, sorry man. after seeing everyone start commenting about materials and re-converting and undoing i kinda just went into skimming mode. hell i was gonna say select the one object and export it into a new scene, but then thought 'gee what if there's a duplicate that's just creating viewport confusion and he got what he wanted but he just can't see it right?' and opted for solution: hypergraph. i honestly believe no more than about 15% of the newer newbs even know what it is. kinda like how the multilister is to the hypershade, the hypergraph seems to be to the outliner as of late. *shrug* wow i kinda just went on a whole mental trip didn't i? it's like 6:00 AM and i've only got 2 hours of work to go... <sigh>