Many thanks for the warm welcome, I will no doubt show you my progress when I have made something of my own imagination. I'm around 3/4 done on the Cartoon dog right now, and have also just dabbled for a week or two seeing what sense i could make of the program on my own with only help files and some basic Maya literature. So far it's all going great For many like myself, learning without a website like this would make things infinately harder