Originally posted by Darkware the little "box" icon to the right of something in the menu is the options box. Click that to go to the options to change things. Which "little box" is that ? I'm having the same problem, (Maya PLE ver 6) and can't find that options box, or anything in the online help. I found a tutorial here : https://home19.inet.tele.dk/b_holm/rotatingtext.htm that displays a "Text Curves Options" dialog, but that doesn't appear when I create text Mike