Originally posted by Emo what is that? NURBS? You can try Booleans but they can get nasty... if it's Polygons then you can try to create a circular curve and project it onto the surface then delete the faces... (that should work but not too sure) by the way, it looks really good... maybe later on you can try to animate it and put some dynamic salt that comes from it -Emo You said poly's, i was talking about nurbs.