That is all extremely helpfull, the only other thing that i can't figure out is that i would like my car to get hit and then travel sideways. I have it set to a motion path and if i rotate it at one point, it rotates for the whole thing. I also tried to tweak the shape to simulate car crash damage but it changed for the entire animation!! How do i get these to happen at specific times?? Sorry, I try to be as clear as possible but i just barely know what i am talking about. You can see how beginner i really am!! THANKS GUYS!! ~eric