Just a question, what in your opinion would be the average time to model something like this? ToxicBunny A good question but it depends how much you really want to do and how much time you have, if its a portfolio piece then do your damndest, if not do your damndest anyway, you got this far. You could have a field day and cook this sucker in Zbrush or Mudbox, which would be neat! Its coming along nicely, maybe bulk the legs a bit more, I know its crouching a bit and it can throw you out, but maybe get some pics of weight lifters to help you along there. Good stuff Jay