Thanks Legend. If I can find some good reference material I think I will try to knock out a MkVII Viper when this one is done. Sorry I am dragging my feet, I have a messenger account I just have not logged into it for ages. I tend to use skype. I'll get logged in to message this week and we can hook up. Here is a minor update: 1. refined the body (nose section connection to back engine section and cleaned up the nose panels. They can actually open. The canopy is now hinged but there is no cockpit (hence the dark glass). 2. added some details around the front intakes To do: 1. lots of greebling 2. back thruster area detailing 3. bottom detailing 4. more engine detailing 5. gun - I am looking for reference material for that now