Actully the first thing I started messing around with was misss,(the link that you provided) It was working ok, I had not quite figured out how to get it to work right, then I was told that I should try and figure out how to do fake sss because of render time. I want to use it for a project that I am working on that will eventually have a LOT going on. Now I am woundering if it really worth it. How much diferance do you think it really makes?