Thanks for all your crits guys, i need to do my final render to get it looking more crisp. This model was just for a friend and he needed it quite quick so i never really went all the way with it i.e all the detailing,maybe i should finish it? and maybe i should be thinking more like a plumber rather than an artist This model was rendered using vray,good guess how did you know??? and it took around 20mins to render, yikes i know. oh and the sink shelf is suppost to be marble! cheers again guys