thanks guys! yeah - i am going to attach the legs to the body - machinary does have something to do with it. I'd post my sketch, but it stilll needs some work. All will be revealed in good time... if I can get my finger out! oi d4rk3lf - I thought you were threatening that you were going to enter the challenge. I'm laying down the polygon gauntlet!! Just kidding mate - it would be good to see what you come up with.