another nice ref image there leon, cheers. Im gonna persist with where im at for the time being, but Im more leaning towards redoing the whole cockpit shell, as a seperate piece of geometry like you suggest. Ive been working on some of the other areas today. Still stuck on the panelling idea. Might have a look at using z, maybe a bump, or, if i really want to do my own head in, a displacement. This isnt the final texture just something I threw on for a render