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Old 05-09-2005, 07:28 PM   #1
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I'm in
I've been looking at this for ages now... and am going to stick with games I've played in the distant past.

1st choice was the 'Spy vs Spy' series but thats been done in 3D in the not too distant past
2nd choice was 'The Last Ninja' but that was cancelled (found some 3D screenshots of the remake)

Edit: I'm not doing speedball 2 anymore, changing it to my other option:
First Samurai (or second as they are almost identical)

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Oh yeah and a couple of really good games indexes for C64 and Amiga games (including graphics)

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C64 games
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I played this game younger. A great one.
Thanks for these links. Useful for those in lack of inspiration.
I am in a hurry to see what that will give !
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I didnt play it too much but it was good fun.

Hope you find something useful from the links
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Been looking at loads of samurai related information the last day or two and learned loads already! (not 3D yet)

I'm going for the mass market cutesy approach with a mix of manga thrown in.
Here's a rough sketch (photoshop on a bouncy train so apologies if its a bit all over):

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depending on polycounts and time I might throw in a horse too and spend ages on textures to make it look more detailed...we'll see
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(very) early start on the body, still got a few unresolved areas to block in.
This will probably come in way below the 3k mark (I'm guessing here) but I'll try and add as much detail as possible

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Just a bit more concept information to fill in what I intend:

The main character will be lightly dressed (as the first sketch).
He'll start with no weapons, just the usual kick/punch combinations.
As he progresses then he'll be able to pick up various armour parts (helmet, breastplate (and flappy bits) and gauntlets.
For weapons he'll be able to pick upto 3 different length swords (with varying special abilities) that he can store on his body.
Additionally he'll have a cutesy dragon or horse to ride.

I've been reading about the setting and its a little like the last ninja 2 where he has had to go forward into the future (2353ish here) so it leaves scope to have some cool technological weapons as well as maybe a robotic dragon or steed to ride.
I think I'll finish blocking the basic character out and then go to the drawing board and put all these words into pictures.
Exciting
oh and it might be called 'third samurai' to be original (not)
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not much progress tonight, just a slight addition to the torso and added a basic foot and arm. Need to slim his waist down too.
also been working on the head a little tonight but it still has lots of work to be done...

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Update on the head, I tried modelling it from a sphere and then cutting back into it and it was interesting doing it that way. It only has a basic unstyled nose and mouth filled in at the moment.
560 tris so far without eyes (with temporary eyes its about 740). Body needs more detail and some hands adding and is currently about 800 tris.

At the minute its looking like a little alien (lol) but it'll change with the ears, hair and topknot blocked in (I hope!) and then textures applied. If I can get it around 1800 tris then I might use the rest to make the steed. Got a few concept sketches for that but it depends on the polycount.

P.s, Off to see jamiroquai tonight (woohoo) so no more updates till next week

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This is looking really good. Nice and simple

Have fun at the concert tonight
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Looks a fun one to do, like what you've done so far. As Blomkaal says its nice and simple, simple sometimes being the best way.

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hey buddy,
this is sort of out of line, but do you know some site where i can serch for old nintendo 8 bit games? there was this game called dead fox, which i liked a hell lot, but haven't been able to find anything on it in my searches
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You're not out of line. Its a relevant question in a way connected with this challenge.

Have you tried a google search? That would be my first place to visit.

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blomkaal - thanks I was trying to keep it simple and rely on the texture to do the hard work. The concert was great, boogied down and listened to some fab music

Jay - cheers the body was fun but my inexperience on heads meant that I had to restart it (hence the try at a spherical head). I'm back to enjoying it now though.

utpal - might not have many screenshots but this site lists most of the NES releases:
http://www.nescentral.com/games/

One noobie question I have is - can you use bump maps in game characters? If so would it be good to bump up his hair area instead of modelling it all? (not including the ponytail/topknot as that will need modeliing).
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Just a quick update on the head. Added an ear, added the topknot (ponytail) and extruded a hairline (dont know whether its worth doing the hairline this way? is it better bump mapped?).
Quick basic colours added in just to see what it'll start looking like

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