yeah, it's weird...
yeah i have made the surface not live before i did any of the other operations
i've attached an image, at the top is a live surface and what i get when i click on a curve
at the bottom is the non live surface and what i get when i click on a curve
as you can see the move manipulator is the same in both cases and i cannot lift the curve off the surface...
that's a "Ch" pronounced as a "K"
Computer skills I should have:
Maya, XSI, Photoshop, AfterEffects, Motion, Illustrator, Flash, Swift3D