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Old 05-04-2011, 10:21 PM   #31
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Originally Posted by honestdom View Post
cool, whatever. they change for me at work.

I think the thighs look a little bulkier, but yeah not much difference so why do it?
Why smooth? because it looks better no matter by how much (I am talking about using the 3 button), if you were going to do a lot of animation that might be different but may be not...........dave
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Old 06-04-2011, 12:52 AM   #32
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I think Dom is right when it comes to the whole poly count when using the 3 button thing, if you smooth a cube that only has 6 sides and look at it in Viewport 2.0 you'll see the actual amount of faces displayed, it does sub divide the geo, it's just doesn't display on the normal view.
Either way your model is looking great Tweety, and I'm eagerly awaiting your progress!
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Old 06-04-2011, 01:39 AM   #33
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Why smooth? because it looks better no matter by how much (I am talking about using the 3 button), if you were going to do a lot of animation that might be different but may be not...........dave
well then thats pretty silly if you are doing a low poly model.
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Old 06-04-2011, 05:39 AM   #34
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Maybe lets take the smooth discussion into the main challenge thread so tweety's thread doesn't get hijacked too much. Maybe Jay has some input too on how to approach the smoothing.
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Old 06-04-2011, 05:24 PM   #35
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Cheers Stwert - Right last bit on the pressing of 3 thing then we are all moving on...

The reason I press 3 is thats the way I work - I like my models looking smooth. But it is also how I was taught to view my models in Maya before Zbrush in a training video (After the early part of this thread will not say which one ) as its a good indentation of what shape it will look like once you add some levels of detail in Zbrush.

Dango77 is right how ever - turning on viewpoint 2.0 )something I have never done until today) does adds the smoothed faces, meaning Honest Dom was correct, but in normal display or high display it does not (on my PC - Anyway). Another benefit of viewpoint 2.0 it now means I can see my hair without rendering it out - Fantastic news - cheers Dango77. I am hoping to get this model in to UDK and do the final renders in there (time allowing of course and why not its free). So pressing 3 will not be an option

Hoping to show some progress tonight (started on the police belt with all the gadgets and stuff) but really tired after today so going to take it easy for a bit.

But no more on the smoothness matter - its over.

Cheers for kind words Bullet and Dango77 and daverave no animation this time round (Well maybe a turntable)
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Old 06-04-2011, 10:44 PM   #36
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Son of a ***** - Doing some more research - digging around on Google I notice this ad for a new psp game "3rd Birthday" - turns out its Parasite Eva 3 (or spin off with same characters).

They have updated the main character with some stunning shots -

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/6554/pic1pn.png

http://www.psptogo.com/upload/2010-1...6101456691.jpg

http://images.eurogamer.net/tv/6/8/2...engrab_480.jpg

http://rpad.tv/wp-content/uploads/20...icial-site.png

Love that one - stunning

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_XL7DNILu0P...g/s1600/10.jpg

Really don`t know what to do now
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oh yeah, i've been getting emails about that, but haven't been sure of what it's about...
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Damn Neil Your moving at an amazing pace its looking very promising
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Dame 3rd birthday has done everything I wanted with the character - its hard to improve it now, but still going on with this - at least I was always planning on putting her in a cop outfit not just jeans and t-shirt.

The game is bar far the best psp game I have ever played - and for once the controls are almost spot on (one thing I hate about the psp - hurts my hands).

Did some test in Z-Brush last night on the top and head - T shirt worked out ok but the head had an area with double faces - took it back to maya then brought it back and zbrush flipped out so left it for now - but at least I learnt how to uv in zbrush and man was it fast and easy - every 3d program needs a workflow like that.
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Yes zbrush will kick you out if there is some thing wrong, also do the mesh checker in zbrush. You can be modelling along then find out there is some thing wrong with the mesh......dave

Edit:Have you managed to get good normal maps out for the vest?
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Originally Posted by daverave View Post
also do the mesh checker in zbrush
No idea - where is that then - I used GoZ and getting a mesh though that can be a pain in the ass, but then I did the uvs and flattened it I saw a number of faces on the noise move to the side - when I had a look in maya I noticed the double faces - GoZ it again and the mouth,eyes and nostrils had random tri`s flying out - getting much worse as I went up levels.

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Edit:Have you managed to get good normal maps out for the vest?
Not tried yet - Was only testing the top - most will be covered I think so it was not for keep but more just getting the work flow into my head.

Anyway was not going to post this but hay not shown anything for awhile

http://www.ravage3d.com/images/Game/Ada_1_5.jpg
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The mesh checker in zbrush was in geo (move up a level) box at the bottom.............dave
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Old 09-04-2011, 05:00 PM   #43
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Do you guys ever use cleanup in Maya? Just a thought as these things do go by the wayside from time to time. It will help you immensley before moving on. I tend to make sure my guys at work run it during and after a model is complete as you never know what can be lurking despite all hard efforts to keep geo clean.

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Yer I use it alot, but on this instance I just forgot to - just eyeballed it as it was just the head and chest area for a quick test sneaky double faces (there was only six on the tip of the noise)
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Well going to carry on but stay away from the ideas used in 3rd birthday (square soft lost the right to the name parasite eve)


Just a quick render.
Shoes done as well as upper body vest and belt - although will play with the size of the clips once I figure out the gun, they are too small right now.

http://www.ravage3d.com/images/Game/Ada_1_6.jpg

YouTube - Aya Wire frame animation test.mov

Things need to do before base mesh fin;

Belt loops,
Side pockets on pants,
Re-do the hands - I`m not liking them right now,
Police radio,
and some hand-cuffs.
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