Maya Training

Introduction to Hard Surface Modeling

Maya Training

Interiors and Furniture Vol 1 & 2 - Modeling & Cloth

Maya Training

Shading, Lighting and Rendering the Bedroom in MR

Maya Training

Robot volume one - Modeling with animation in mind

Maya Training

Spach-Alspaugh House the complete courseware

Maya Training

Burt The Cartoon Dinosaur Vol 01 - Modeling

New Maya Training

Robot Volume 02 - Hybrid Rigging
You are here > Home > SimplyMaya Community Forums
Loading

Welcome to Simply Maya

Please Sign in or Sign up for an account

Member Login

Lost your password?

Not a member yet? Sign Up!

Old 17-11-2008, 05:30 AM   #1
Agent_Dick
Registered User
 
Agent_Dick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 66
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default ZBrush- Is it worth it?

I've seen you lot do some pretty sweet looking stuff with zbrush, and frankly, I hate bumpmapping in every damn detail. So I ask you, is ZBrush worth the money and the time it takes to learn it? I know it's pretty unintuitive, but it seems pretty powerful and it seems that more and more animation and game design jobs are looking for people who can use it. What's your take?
__________________
The Swindler
Critty please? With sugar on top?
Agent_Dick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2008, 05:35 AM   #2
Joopson
Registered User
 
Joopson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 2,313
Thanks: 1
Thanked 33 Times in 33 Posts
Default

I say it is worth it, as it is becoming quite prominent in the 3D industry. Plus, it is fun
__________________
Environment Artist @ Plastic Piranha
www.joopson.com
Joopson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2008, 01:21 PM   #3
Jay
Senior Modeler - Framestore
 
Jay's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 6,234
Thanks: 39
Thanked 425 Times in 381 Posts
Default

How can I put it:

Accept no substitutes. Ive been using Zb for near 2 years or so now and it gets better and better.

Whilst a little unorthodox in its approach when you first get into it you'll find that all that unfamiliarity goes after a day or so. Its like anything new in that respect.

For me its better than mudbox, which Ive tried and tested both versions, but found MB a little sluggish in areas where frankly it doesnt need to be. Plus its become almost a copy cat version with a few of the new features that were missing before...

As with all good kit, ZB offers a whole range of workflows for each individual, as we all use stuff a little different. For example, those wanting to painting on a 3d model and hate doing uvs, well dont worry, paint away and let Zbrush worry about the techy part. I could go on.

For the money you get a hell of a lot of software and then some. Once youve bought and registered your copy each upgrade after that is free! Yes Free!!

Something for nothing, thats a rarity these days, the big hitter Autodesk doesnt even do this for the prime packages it now owns, despite the amount of money it must be making, they should take a leaf out of Pixologics books....

anyway thats my pounds worth of crud, I leave the rest to you

Jay
Jay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2008, 01:55 PM   #4
gster123
Moderator
 
gster123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Manchester Uk
Posts: 6,300
Thanks: 1
Thanked 51 Times in 45 Posts
Default

Is it worth it???? Hmmmm.

Damm right it is!

Then again you need to actually use it to justify the cash but its pretty cheap at the end of the day, As Jay pointed out, with the free upgrades its well and truley worth the cash.
__________________
"No pressure, no diamonds" Thomas Carlyle
gster123 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2008, 09:04 PM   #5
starjsjswars
Subscriber
 
starjsjswars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: IL
Posts: 1,052
Thanks: 1
Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts
Default

Worth buying.

^^^^

wasnt me, i dont even have it so idk

lol
__________________
A great mod for Jedi academy www.moviebattles.com

Computer Rig-

64-bit vista
23.5 inch LCD + a 19 inch
Q6600 intell qaud
4 gigs of ddr2 ram
8800GTS 512 video card @700mhz

Last edited by starjsjswars : 18-11-2008 at 12:54 AM.
starjsjswars is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2008, 09:28 PM   #6
arran
Registered User
 
arran's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 3,708
Thanks: 0
Thanked 9 Times in 9 Posts
Default

yeah - definitely worth it - the more you use it the more lovely it gets.
__________________
arran3D

arran3D blog
arran is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 17-11-2008, 11:36 PM   #7
Joopson
Registered User
 
Joopson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Los Angeles, CA
Posts: 2,313
Thanks: 1
Thanked 33 Times in 33 Posts
Default

Zbrush is easily one of the most important tools in the gaming industry, and probably just as much so in the film industry. Having all the artistic freedom is overwhelming.
__________________
Environment Artist @ Plastic Piranha
www.joopson.com
Joopson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-11-2008, 07:37 PM   #8
Agent_Dick
Registered User
 
Agent_Dick's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 66
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Alright, thanks guys. It sounds like it helps you get past the parts of the creation process I hate the most- the constant going into photoshop, painting it on, having it look like sh** then going back and doing it again an additional 500 times.

Second question is: I haven't gone to school for this or anything, yet. Should I get this before I go to school(this coming fall)? I know that making anything remotely believable in maya without training has a certain blank check quality at a lot of schools at the moment, does the same hold true with Zbrush?

Also, The reviews for it all either hate it or love it, but I can't really find any explanation of its features and how they compare to the various 3d paint platforms (price vs. effectiveness in particular). Anybody have a summary or a review favorited that would cover this?

Sorry for so many questions, but hell, its expensive.
__________________
The Swindler
Critty please? With sugar on top?
Agent_Dick is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 30-11-2008, 09:43 PM   #9
To La Bomb
Registered User
 
To La Bomb's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 56
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Default

Originally posted by Agent_Dick


Also, The reviews for it all either hate it or love it, but I can't really find any explanation of its features and how they compare to the various 3d paint platforms (price vs. effectiveness in particular). Anybody have a summary or a review favorited that would cover this?
the reason is there is nothing like it, maya's mudbox still doesn't match the capabilities of zbrush
To La Bomb is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-12-2008, 03:45 AM   #10
gster123
Moderator
 
gster123's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Manchester Uk
Posts: 6,300
Thanks: 1
Thanked 51 Times in 45 Posts
Default

3d World had a review of it that wasd pretty straight down the line.

The thing with Z is that its not been designed like a 3d app as its not really, so it just takes a bit of getting used to as its slightly quirkey in how it goes about things.

Download the free 30 day trial of it to see if you get along. The other option is mudbox and bodypaint.
__________________
"No pressure, no diamonds" Thomas Carlyle
gster123 is offline   Reply With Quote

A little bit about who we are
Links you might find useful
Catch up with SimplyMaya
SimplyMaya specialises in Maya tutorials. We offer over 1,000 individual Maya training videos, ranging from basic Maya tutorials through to intermediate Maya tutorials. Our tutorials are created by instructors with industry experience and are designed to get you up and running in Maya quickly without making it seem like hard work.

Copyright © 1999-2015 SimplyMaya - vBulletin® Copyright © 2000-2015, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.