the reason he was jumpy is that there were key on my z azis on the root, i kep the beg and end and deleted all the middle keys. He is alot smoother now, I fixed his roll on the foot so it is smoother. It is getting there. The roll may still look odd, but he is wearing boots, and boots don't really crease all that much. I put an arc on the x axis for the foot so it moves inward slightly and back out on the stride. The arms are a bit exagerated, but i like the look of them. I have a few minor tweaks to do to curvers tomorrow, before I can call this done. Thanks all that replied for the great feed back, you guys always see something that i over looked.
here is a update
Last edited by kassun : 12-12-2003 at 06:27 PM.