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# 76 26-07-2007 , 09:34 PM
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With the angle, try one like no.1 c'ept lower down like it is from a small child's view.


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# 77 26-07-2007 , 11:44 PM
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Think funkey bunnies is spot on with his suggestion for the camera close to the end of the broom.


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# 78 26-07-2007 , 11:53 PM
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yeah - good to see you still working on this joopson.

Like the others, I definitely agree that a more dramatic camera angle will really help. I also think that a few more objects will help break up the scene and give it more interest - maybe a table behind the ninja with a vase, or a chest of a drawers... just an idea. user added image

# 79 27-07-2007 , 06:21 AM
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which angle is better (or should i change them both, lol)
also, sorry, only 2 minutes of rendering time each, so alot of noise

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# 80 27-07-2007 , 06:22 AM
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# 81 27-07-2007 , 06:48 AM
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definitely 1 - it already looks a lot better - though I might rotate the character a bit just so you can see his pose. I might also move the tv in the bedroom forward a touch just so you can see it.

# 82 27-07-2007 , 06:55 AM
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I would say right in between 1 and 2!


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# 83 27-07-2007 , 07:50 AM
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thanks, i added a table behind him, with a vase, but i think it looks like crap. its a thin hallway, and i personally leave my hallways empty, but oh well, what do you think???

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# 84 27-07-2007 , 08:37 AM
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I think the superbright light you have in the hallway is what the real problem is. I don't think has anything to do with the camera angle or the modeling. All that stuff looks fantastic. Loose the big bright light, and add some small lights on the walls ( to the front and back) and see what happens.

Of course this is only a suggestion.

# 85 27-07-2007 , 09:36 AM
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as far as the angle I agree with gster, I think it would look best inbetween the two angles. Maybe with a bit of a bias towards the second one. The pose is really nice and you lose a lot of its dynamism in the first one because its too hidden and because the pose was created with a frontal view in mind and in the second one because it loses the viewer's involvement. (He could also be scooted a little closer to the door, I think.)

Another thing that I think could be improved is THX's suggestion. I would use much dimmer light. This is probably at night and the lighting is too distracting. I think you should have a dim light at the left, the dimmer light coming from the tv, and add some rimlight if you need to.

I don't think you need the table behind him - especially with so much showing. Remember, the audience is pretty smart, if we see the end of a table there we'll know it's a table. I think it's just a bit distracting atm.

Anyway it's shaping up, man.
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# 86 29-07-2007 , 12:48 AM
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I'm lovin' it alot! The style is great! After you incorporate the suggestions from the guys above, it'll be pretty awesome. Nice work Joopson


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# 87 01-08-2007 , 12:04 AM
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yes man your work is grate.i think u can make an animation film with this scene actually with this brain. user added image

# 88 03-08-2007 , 08:05 PM
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ok, tell me what you think of this one:

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# 89 03-08-2007 , 08:11 PM
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I think it should be a bit darker in the parent‘s room, and it would be nice if you could add some DoF, mostly on the broom (since it’s so close to the camera).
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# 90 03-08-2007 , 08:20 PM
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I agree, I think it could be a bit darker and don't be afraid to mess with it a little in photoshop. I think you could see just a little bit more of his face and I think he could be closer to the door with the door closed a little bit more. It's kinda weird that he's putting his hand to his ear awkwardly far from an open door. Oh also, I think the TV should be more of a blue color. If you have the time it would be nice to tweak the pose, it's not as awesome from this angle because you were planning on a different view when you made it.

Anyway, this looks a ton better than it did before.
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