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# 1 21-01-2007 , 03:23 PM

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Ok, I'm giving the mech tutorial a break because it's annoying me at the moment.
I've found a nice little tutorial on 3d-palace on modelling a Feisar racer from Wipeout - it's done in XSI but I want to try it in Maya.
I've got about 2 minutes into the tutorial and hit a problem though, and no one from the 3d-place forums are offering help.
The guy chooses 3 faces and then an edge and rotates the faces down, using the edge as the rotation reference. Is there any way to do this in Maya? I have an image below so you can get the idea.
Thanks if anyone knows!
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# 2 21-01-2007 , 03:43 PM

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- Select the faces

- Press "insert" on the keyboard

- Move the pivot point to the desired location (for example snap it to a verted along the edge you want to use as the pivot.

- Press insert again

Note: when manipulating the pivot clicking the little blue circle that is on a stem from the center will pin the pivot for the scale, rotate and transform tools. Clicking it a second time will un pin the pivot point. (Yellow with a circle inside is Pinned, Blue with no circle inside is unpinned).

Hope this helps

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# 3 21-01-2007 , 03:52 PM

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This is how far I've got. As you can see, with the 3 faces selected, the back face goes up. There must be some way to use the edge as a pivot, but I can't figure it out
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# 4 21-01-2007 , 04:07 PM

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jhaydock answered it correct. If you look at your image, your pivot point is in the center. that will cause 1 side to go up and 1 side to go down. do what jhaydock said

hit insert to pull up your piviot point. Then what i usually do it select the command snap to edge and then move the piviot point until it snaps the the back end of that face u dont want to move up and then hit insert again to get out the pivot menu. i have way grouped together but Jhaydock said the exact same thing so if you follow what he said, you will be fine

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# 5 21-01-2007 , 04:08 PM

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Originally posted by jhaydock
- Select the faces

- Press "insert" on the keyboard

- Move the pivot point to the desired location (for example snap it to a verted along the edge you want to use as the pivot.

- Press insert again

Note: when manipulating the pivot clicking the little blue circle that is on a stem from the center will pin the pivot for the scale, rotate and transform tools. Clicking it a second time will un pin the pivot point. (Yellow with a circle inside is Pinned, Blue with no circle inside is unpinned).

Hope this helps

J.

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Sweet! Cheers J, I didn't see this before I posed the second time.
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Thanks a lot!

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# 6 21-01-2007 , 04:17 PM

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Seems everyone beat me to the punch. I had a reply all typed up, checked before I posted, and woa!!

So I've just got this to add. this method is the best way of doing it if you don't want/need the 3 edges at the front to be flat.

If you want a constant angle on the sloping part, AND you want the 3 edges to be flat, try this way.

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# 7 21-01-2007 , 04:34 PM

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Turbo: cheers for the explanation user added image

Flep: sorry mate! Thanks though. So with your method, I start with a plane and do it?

Well I've done a bit more, including adding some edges where the cockpit will be. I want to cut this guy in half and duplicate it on the other side, but I also want it to so that any changes I make to the original side will be mirrored on the duplicate. Does anyone know how to do this? Thanks!

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# 8 21-01-2007 , 04:53 PM

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ha ha, no worries, it's not your fault I type so slow.

Yeah, just started with a poly plane, 3 divisions wide, 1 division long.

As for working on one half, and having a mirror of it,
I just use Smooth Poly Proxy, reset all options, set the mirror direction appropriate for the axis it sits along, check Keep Hard Edges and hit apply. This will creat an exact mirrored copy of what you're doing, AS WELL as a higher res version that is both halves stuck together. Dlete the low poly mirror, select the higher poly part and move it out of the way so you can continue to work on the low poly version.

Though, something I've seen Zak from 3Dbuzz do in Modelling on the fly makes me think that there's a much easier way of doing this, without the smoothing or th extra geometry.
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# 9 21-01-2007 , 05:06 PM

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Originally posted by enhzflep
ha ha, no worries, it's not your fault I type so slow.

Yeah, just started with a poly plane, 3 divisions wide, 1 division long.

As for working on one half, and having a mirror of it,
I just use Smooth Poly Proxy, reset all options, set the mirror direction appropriate for the axis it sits along, check Keep Hard Edges and hit apply. This will creat an exact mirrored copy of what you're doing, AS WELL as a higher res version that is both halves stuck together. Dlete the low poly mirror, select the higher poly part and move it out of the way so you can continue to work on the low poly version.

Though, something I've seen Zak from 3Dbuzz do in Modelling on the fly makes me think that there's a much easier way of doing this, without the smoothing or th extra geometry.
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Ah cool! Thanks very much! user added image

Cheers for all the help guys!

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# 10 21-01-2007 , 07:56 PM

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Funny i've thought about doing a wipeout craft recently... gotta love the style of that game. Feisar are the British section too arent they?

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# 11 22-01-2007 , 02:58 PM

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Originally posted by petrol
Funny i've thought about doing a wipeout craft recently... gotta love the style of that game. Feisar are the British section too arent they?

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It would be good to give it a go! I'm having fun even though there is a lot of translation to do from XSI. I guess if I knew more about Maya I wouldn't have to do that, but hey. I'd be happy to lend you any help from what I've learnt so far.

I think Wipeout is my favourite game style-wise. It has the strongest sense of style out of most games IMO, which, with the awesome gameplay, makes it fantastic user added image

I'm not sure if Feisar are the British team. I think Auricom could be because they have the colours red, white and blue, but then again that could mean they are American

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Ok guys, I've gone back over and done what Flep suggested, and I've extruded some edges to create the shape of the craft. I'm just left with this hole here that I don't know how to fill. If anyone could tell me I'd be really grateful.
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Also, I have 2 edges which should be one but are not. Will this cause any problems and does anyone know how to join them? I've tried the merge edge tool but it doesn't seem to work, or a I can't seem to work it, lol.
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# 13 22-01-2007 , 04:31 PM

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Well, in the first image, you can just select the 8 edges at the back, then do EditPolygons->FillHole. That should take care of that part.

As for the second image, you really need to cut the faces of the pannel underneath, so that you've got a vert there to line up with the one in the air. I spose you could just spin it over so you're looking at it from the bottom, then use the SplitPolygonTool to make a cut accross the bottom. Drag the vert concerned down to meet it's new friend then merge them, same as the one on the right of your image a the same spot.

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# 14 22-01-2007 , 08:11 PM

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Are you totally incapable of creating smaller screen shots, ZeroAlarm? Obviously, you didn't read the STICKY thread before posting, eh?

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# 15 23-01-2007 , 07:27 AM

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flep: has anyone ever told you that you're a genius? :p Thanks LOADS for that; I would've been totally stuck otherwise

Dave: Sorry about that! I didn't want to make it any smaller otherwise the highlighted edges wouldn't have shown up. I'll keep it at a smaller size for the rest of them though. Thanks for the warning

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