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Old 08-09-2006, 12:00 AM   #1
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back, wow its been a long time, ive been looking at the wips and finished forums almost daily but my life has been far too busy to get into any 3D as im done school and my job isnt requiring 3d.

but this is my comeback thread, doing what i do best, cars.

to prove to myself that i still have it and im still improving.

so its a bit of a slow start, but ive got the rough bits of the side of the car.

next is the hood, front bumper, rear bumper and taillights and windows.

i plan on doing some sort of interior, obviously wheels and tires, and little details that im known for.

here is how its going so far. spent about an hour on this so far.

i have a habbit of getting the entire car roughly made up and then sharpening all the edges and getting the model all cleaned up rather than finishing the front end and moving on.




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ill update this for tonite to show you what ive done, and so you can actually tell its a car im aiming for.

you should all have seen this car in real life at one time or another, its been around for 30+ years.


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Old 08-09-2006, 02:25 AM   #3
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it look pretty good. i should try to model a car someday really soon. any advice????
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Old 08-09-2006, 09:36 PM   #4
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it look pretty good. i should try to model a car someday really soon. any advice????
-pick a car you really like
-if its your first car, maybe try to follow a tutorial
-plan ahead ie. set the model up so that its easy to later on sharpen the edges up and tweak it.
-clean wire is a happy wire
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here is the update for tonite, i added a front bumper/lip and a bit of a headlight lens.

any suggestions/help?

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thanks for the advice. on your model where the wheel will go it looks like it is to far in. like it got dented. but other wise it looks really good.
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a small update for the day.
i wanted to do a test render rather than just screenshots and all i had time to do was fix the hood a bit, add an intercooler and do a small tweak here and there.

still lots of work needed to be done on the front end, ive decided to totally finish and complete the front end before i continue with the rest of the car.



the intercooler is too far forward, its going through the front lip, and the turn signal in the bumper isnt right at all yet.
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im having a problem with an air duct on the lip of the front bumper.

i want it to be square, but as you can see in the render, when i covert to subd it goes round.

how can i make this stay really square?

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i dont know anything about sub d yet, but i have a suggestion for another area. my suggestion is pull the grill out to give it some more depth. it doesnt fit the car yet.
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Originally posted by Turbo Dan
im having a problem with an air duct on the lip of the front bumper.

i want it to be square, but as you can see in the render, when i covert to subd it goes round.

how can i make this stay really square?

You'll never get it perfectly square with subds but you can get pretty close by converting to subd, selecting the edges in the original mesh that you want squared off and using the crease tool. You can crease more than once to go sharper and sharper. I think three creases is as far as you can go. It does make your resulting geometry much denser however and this is part of the reason I've gone away from subds for tech modelling and just stick with polys and poly smooth (see my 66 vette posts - http://forum.simplymaya.com/showthre...threadid=22665).

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If you select the edge and the edges around and apply a "Full Crease" you can achive a perfect sqaure:

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Originally posted by Eldwick
If you select the edge and the edges around and apply a "Full Crease" you can achive a perfect sqaure:
I'm fairly sure this can lead to undesirable results when you have a geometry like Turbo Dan is working with. If you do a full crease in an otherwise uncreased area, you can end up with glitches in the smooth areas - at least that was my experience

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im trying as hard as i can to not use creases as i switch from poly to sub d back and forth about a million times and the crease is lost in the conversion.

any way to make the poly geometry so that it will hold that square?
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how do i make it square with poly smooth, cause i do the poly smooth but it does the same thing as subd, makes it oval
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The edges you dont want to have rounded, have them have "hard" normals, and edges you do want to have rounded have "soft" normals then. Then when you smooth select "Keep Hard Edges"

Also, why go back and forth when you can just polygon proxy and see your results interactivly and keep creases.

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