haha. sorry guys!! done it again!!!!!!
Its like fate,...every time i get stuck...not long after i post a question, i suss it myself! if i dont post, im stuck for hours, as soon as i cry for help, the answer falls on my lap!
As soon as i created the blendshape, in order for it to work with bones etc on my original mesh, i had to weight the duplicate (deformer) to 1.
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those who succeed are only the failures that never gave up.