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BennyK 31-10-2007 04:21 PM

Benny K - Winter Challenge
 
I'm in! This is my first competition in SM and I'm still pretty newbish... I hope my lots of free time at the moment and the extra long challenge can compensate my lack of experience.
And of course I can get some help here (I hope)...

I'll be going into martial arts (about the only sport I know something about) - Karate / Judo / Brazilian Jujitsu / MMA ...
My plan is to create a character, rig and skin it (after I learn how) and then see what martial art can give me the best looking scene.
Benny

BennyK 31-10-2007 05:24 PM

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I started today with some image planes, and got a part of the head done...
I'm having problems with keeping two rings in the head - mouth and eyes. (this is the first time I'm trying to build a realistic head).
Any help with cleaning the geometry will be appreciated.
Also, can someone ref a tutorial for modeling an ear please :confused:.

jali 31-10-2007 06:03 PM

hi

my suggestion would be to get rid of some of the divisions around the mouth, it's way to many at this early stage of your model, imagen what the ploy count is going to be like when its smothed

BennyK 31-10-2007 06:24 PM

Thanks jali
 
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I got rid of a couple of edge loops, but I need much of these for the nose...
Here's an update - still messy, but I'm not going to animate It's face, and I'm not even sure it'll be seen from close enough distance to even see the lips protrude...

arran 31-10-2007 06:25 PM

yeah - as jali said - you have way too many edge loops for so early on - focus on getting the basic shape down before you add detail.

BennyK 01-11-2007 03:34 AM

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Pretty much done with the head, just need to add the ears, but I'm happy with the way it looks :attn:

BennyK 01-11-2007 05:09 AM

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The ears... They don't look too well but I want to get on with the model already.

BennyK 01-11-2007 09:32 AM

Progress
 
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I worked for a while on a hand from another project (Franky) :

BennyK 01-11-2007 11:25 AM

Hi people, I took a break from modeling and decided to learn some skinning...
I have some questions about this:
* Is there a problem with using an 'influence object' for almost every joint?
* What kind of object is best for skinning? (Polygon/Smooth polygons/Subdiv/etc)
*I only used 'Smooth' skinning. Is there a point in learning the other option? (for this project)
Thanks in advance,
Benny

gster123 01-11-2007 11:52 AM

Are the influences for the muscles? I wouldent use them for every joint.

I use non smoothed polys, skinning with smooth polys is a right paint in the ass, hence the paint in there, use the low then add the smooth later or use a wrap an hide the low.

I generally use smooth all the time but depending on your project rigid is good, but I would say for this just use smooth.

BennyK 01-11-2007 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by gster123
Are the influences for the muscles?
No, I want them to simulate the bones...

Quote:

Originally posted by gster123
I wouldent use them for every joint.
What's the problem in that? (besides 10 min of calculating when applying them :( - Still better and faster then painting weights...)

Quote:

Originally posted by gster123
... or use a wrap an hide the low.
What's wrap? (lol, I'm such a noob :attn: )

mtmckinley 01-11-2007 12:14 PM

I typically bind my low-poly mesh with smooth bind and use paint weights to adjust most of the joints. If painting weights just isn't cutting it, I may use blend shapes to clean up some of the deforming. When I'm ready to render, I'll run a smooth on everything.

gster123 01-11-2007 12:21 PM

Wait your using objects to simulate bones? why???

Whats wrong with just using the joints to drive your mesh to the simulate bones?

BennyK 01-11-2007 12:22 PM

Thanks Mike, and congrats on the wedding.
I'll see what blandshape is when I have some spare time... lol

BennyK 01-11-2007 05:17 PM

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some progress on the body.
***When I look at it full size, from this angle (that's about the first time) I see the body and the head require some shaping...


gster123: I mean the joints on both sides of the bone (so they don't collapse) like the elbow, wrist, shoulder, knee, ankle,etc.
lol, I mentioned almost everything...
Edit: sorry for not answering in the previous post. You posted your reply while I was writing mine:)


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