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Kurt 16-10-2006 05:50 PM

Need your input...
 
Hi everyone.. just wanted to see what everyone would like to see for a real life realistic animal modeling tut. I was thinking something very challenging both modeling and texturing wise like a rhino, iguana or deep sea fish

List some other cool animals to help me pick=).

Kurt

j5ive 16-10-2006 06:14 PM

Personally I think a rhino or the like would be very similar to the Oliphant we already have here. I would like to see something unusual myself, something like a Komodo Dragon.

17-10-2006 01:26 AM

id say something like an angler fish or a halibut just for the odd shapes and the slimey effect

keef 17-10-2006 02:20 AM

You asked for it Kurt....

Duckbill platypus gets my vote - it's got the lot: bill, tail, webbed paws, hair (textured wet & dry) !!! Like j5ive says - rhino's are old hat.

Keith

gelfie 17-10-2006 05:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by keef
You asked for it Kurt....

Duckbill platypus gets my vote - it's got the lot: bill, tail, webbed paws, hair (textured wet & dry) !!! Like j5ive says - rhino's are old hat.

Keith

The Platypus has an incredibly boring body shape, and short stubby legs. It would be like modelling a penguin... the most boring exercise ever.

I say go for something with a lot of detail in it both in textures and in the body itself.

I have an affinity with cats, so would like to see one of those, but again, the only really seriously complex part would be the cryptic internals of the ear.

You could consider insects. If you were going to go all out and make it hyper real, then all the bits of fine hair and chitin and the compound eyes etc could be challenging.

j5ive 17-10-2006 06:03 AM

I think a cat would be very similar to the yeti tutorial, maybe a fully rigged scorpian though it may have been done.

gster123 17-10-2006 06:08 AM

What about a tiger or a Zebra, something with some colour variation and different textures (nose, fur, whiskers) etc, this might make it an "Maya Unlimited" tutorial though, if you go down the route of fur and hair for dynamics etc.

Just a thought

13th_resident 17-10-2006 09:47 AM

i was hoping a realism tutorial would come out some time in simplymaya. if you want something challenging then i would think something to do with fur would do it. such as these ppl here already stated. a tiger might be cool. like gster just said. lots of proportion and deformation to take care of.
just a question kurt. whats the average time it would take for you do make a entire tutorial project?. it also depends on what kind of progect it is but lets just say.. how long did it take for you do do the pirate ship? 2 weeks?

Kurt 17-10-2006 09:54 AM

Most time it takes between 2 3 weeks depending on the model and detail as well as textures.. Hard surface always takes me longer then organic due to having to keep everything claen and a flat.

Usally 1 week building the model next week recording it. again depends on the model and textures.


Lion and trigers would be cool but other then the face not much detail.. I look into it it.. my puter can handel fur pretty well it only starts to flake when the fur get supper dence...

I was thinking of a sea horse maybe.

farbtopf 17-10-2006 04:06 PM

Giraffe it has an interesting body shape has fur and is unique. Or maybe a sort of ape, like a Gorilla or Orang-Utan. Hippos are interesting as well, all the fat folds, and shinyness of their skin.
But I'd definately be for something that lives on the land, since there is the sea creature tutorial already.

Kurt 17-10-2006 05:20 PM

maybe a human ancestor...

daffas 17-10-2006 08:26 PM

how about a charmelon????? they have scales, folds of skin, many diffrent colors, tiny spikes all over them, claws, and alot of other stuff to. :) here is a web site


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...start=29&tbnid

WynterNyght 19-10-2006 11:52 PM

perhaps a bat? I also agree with whoever said a chamleon. I used to have a jacksons chamleon, pretty interesting visualy.

Jay 20-10-2006 08:21 AM

Now to pose this question...will you be using Zbrush as well?

If so then, some sort of Lizard, Komodo, Chameleon. What about a turtle? now that would be cool

Jay

Kurt 20-10-2006 10:22 AM

I'll look into z brush as well...

G-Man 20-10-2006 01:13 PM

Bro..go prehistoric..
Like a giant sloth or..
eh..
Gigantophiticus...or how ever you spell it..
Maybe Arsinoitherium
Or Macruechenia
Ral stuff, but looks kick ass..and you still get a bit of creativity with it, since most of these things are preserved only in skeleton...
Just my thoughts. :)
G

jsprogg 20-10-2006 02:15 PM

I would think an Aardvark would be quite a challenge :)

G-Man 20-10-2006 07:41 PM

HEh..ardvarks roick..
i loved the one on Kingdom Hospital..." Do me a solid, and i'll do you a solid"..
G

Kurt 20-10-2006 08:25 PM

Just wanted to see about this idea..

What about a werewolf or even with a cat head but one like in harry potter.... where its not over-built with muscle i love the look of it very diffent from the typical ones you see ...but at he same time i can do a realitic wolf or cat face add some human modeling as well as some fur. Would be a really oringaial look that i have in mind.

Kinda like the lizard ardvark idea as well.

WynterNyght 21-10-2006 07:17 AM

a werewolf would be awsome, i was more of a fan of the van helsing one than the harry potter version. It seemed to wimpy for me.

Galadiel 22-10-2006 03:10 PM

i would like a hornet or something. A bald faced hornet looks nice

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bald-faced_hornet

or a mantis??

http://www.akaflieg.uni-karlsruhe.de...n_auf_Hand.jpg

mr pix. 23-10-2006 09:07 AM

i'd like to learn something with a wetness texture.

Also ZBrush would be cool!

Kurt 23-10-2006 10:28 AM

I'll narrow it down to a few and post up a poll tomrrow and see what everyone is leaning towards..

AlphaFlyte 23-10-2006 02:19 PM

I'll hijack the thread a second because I know you read this Kurt. I'll take the opportunity to thank you for the latest Human basic tutorial. Learned quite a bit from it and it was really fun to watch. So thanks for all the time that went into the making of it.

Back on topic: All the suggestions sounds like fun to me. Get crackin' :D

Alan 23-10-2006 03:10 PM

If you want to do something that's going for realism stay away from werewolves, giant sloths etc etc. What you need to do is get something that is real e.g. the cat idea. Then take photos and then the point is to match to the photos. There's no being lazy and saying to yourself "that'll do" when it's blatantly not matching up, with a fantasy creature it's much easier to get away with things that you couldn't with a real creature that you can see infront of you.

Just my 2 pence worth... I really should get some more tutorials done aswell...
:ninja:

A

Kurt 23-10-2006 06:19 PM

Thanks alan.. as normal you are right.... will, stay away from the fantasy this time...

Kurt 24-10-2006 02:54 PM

OK... need to pick one from the list below.


Lioness

hippo

iguana

mantis

Alan 24-10-2006 03:11 PM

hippo for me or lioness as a close second

NeoStrider 24-10-2006 03:25 PM

i think the mantis and iguana are too similar to the sea creature in terms of creation... the lioness has fur, sure, but it's everywhere. on the hippo there's only certain spots with concentrated stubble-type whiskers, which would help teach baldness maps or the like. although it wouldn't be as pretty, i feel the hippo would be the better choice for a tutorial.

Kurt 24-10-2006 04:48 PM

I think i will do the hippo will start the model soon and get some updates up.. ty guys.

Galadiel 25-10-2006 10:18 AM

i am curious Kurt! :attn: Can't wait to see you first updates.

:beer:

dockode 26-10-2006 11:46 PM

awe... i'm too late aren't i.

I would suggest something like an octopus or squid.

13th_resident 27-10-2006 01:57 AM

someone asked him that last time, but he ended up making the sea creature tutorial. but yeah a hippo would be cool.

bruce dwyer 27-10-2006 11:59 PM

I know im too late but
 
I was thinking that a gaint lions head jelly fish would have been a beauty, oh well next time may be

arran 28-10-2006 03:58 AM

cool! A hippo would be great. I just started work on a rhino so it'll be good to see how yours turns out. :beer:

deep-freeze 07-11-2006 04:56 PM

actually a werewolf would be pretty cool, especially if you delved into rigging and animation

NeoStrider 07-11-2006 10:01 PM

i was thinking the same thing, except instead of a werewolf, why not learn how to do a movie-faithful version of the hulk? don't get me wrong i know how to model an over-bulging muscular human with a crappy haircut, but i mean GEEZ... that color of green is just beyond me... :P

(this is me saying a werewolf is too close to a regular humanoid model as-is.)

starjsjswars 18-11-2006 04:00 PM

meh i say you do somthing with hair\fur... that would help us all the most.;)


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