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Jay 02-05-2011 03:42 PM

April Challenge Winner!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Well its clobbering time again for the challenge!!

There were some really good entries and a fair few participating which was great!! I pretty much stayed away for the whole month so I could be pleasantly surprised by the work - and I was!!! there was some very cool stuff throughout, I dont think I saw a bad thread this weekend looking at the high standard of models -well done to all there!!!

But as ever there is only the one main winner......this time its RockyMills_01. Well done mate!!! Great job!!

Dave, Nilla and myself were in agreement on this one, it simply looks fun and has alot of character in there with those two dudes mate. Great Stuff

If you can PM Nilla for your well deserved prize then Im sure she get that to you asap.

well done to everyone else for entering. I think that Dave will decide on the badges for 2nd and 3rd places too.

Hope to get the may challenge underway very soon

cheers
Jay

David 02-05-2011 04:36 PM

Second and Third place, which was a difficult call....

Second place tweetytunes technically very good

Third place stwert great entire

We'll announce the new challenge later on today and this time you guys are going to have to go head to head with the Lightwave chaps.

Close call this time guys thanks to everyone who took part.
Dave

stwert 02-05-2011 04:46 PM

Hey, congrats RockyMills_01!! Your entry was awesome. My wife picked it as the winner too ;)

Gen 02-05-2011 05:08 PM

Gratz Rocky and Neil :giggle:

Lot's of entries, lots of good stuff.

Let's see what the next challenge brings ^^

Jay 02-05-2011 05:34 PM

Yeah grats to tweets and stwert too.

The next challenge is a good one for sure.......

Jay

mastone 02-05-2011 06:28 PM

Congrats guys!!!!

tweetytunes 02-05-2011 07:40 PM

Really - I had it so different in my head - me 3rd at the most - I thought stwert was going to be first for sure. Just setup the PC but will be sorting the rest of this model out some point this week.

mastone 02-05-2011 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetytunes (Post 318807)
Really - I had it so different in my head - me 3rd at the most - I thought stwert was going to be first for sure. Just setup the PC but will be sorting the rest of this model out some point this week.

Really?
I Didn't, I also think the criteria of judgement are a bit unclear with this challenge, if I read the challenge outline:
"...I would like to see a new take or look of a game character of your choice that is already out there, you can style it/make it into whatever you like eg: male into female or vice versa, or mechanical into organic or all of the above...Post a pic of the character of your choice that you intend to change.....All models in by end of April ,textured or not, as its the design we are after......Or even using the open gl high quality render setting to show it off in real time would be ideal.."
I don't see this reflected in the judgement, although I really like rocky mills' design and I really think he put the most effort in it , had the sweetest presentation and the best quality render... in my opinion it wasn't the best redesign of an existing game character since it was mostly along the line of the original characters ( in style and so on), don't take me wrong I think it is really high quality work, just not the winner based on the forementioned criteria

For the other final entries:

Chirone:
It was a valiant attempt, I liked the transformation, but imo not a redesign of an existing character, more like a merger of characters

Mastone:
It's hard to say something objective about ones own work, but in short; It was an original take on an existing character, but wasn't really finished the way I would liked to have finished it.

Tweetytunes:
Clear image at the beginning of his thread so everyone knows on what he's basing his 3D work on, but although his work was good ( like the hair) just like Rocky Mills' work, to me at least it didn't feel like a different take on an existing character, more like a different outfit the character stayed more or less the same as the original.

Joey81:
It's clear that it is Wil E Coyote and in his thread a nice start off image , but again no redesign

CG Wolfgang:
As I don't know the Robotrek character it's really hard to judge especially since it's based on sprite based stuff, but I do think it was a really good try to enter and be original especially for one that is ( at least so I think)relative new to 3D.

stwert:
As I said in his thread it is a funny character, but to me it is unclear on what original character he is basing his work(no startimage in his thread), it looks like a worms character, but not really a different take, more a recreation

murambi:
Since God Of War is a fairly recent videogame I think it was really courageous to attempt a different take on already briljant artwork, in the end it fell a bit short but that's not something to be ashamed of.

I know the final judgement is based on an opinion and a certain point of view, but considering the challenge outline I would have picked these as the winners( I have not counted myself in, that's for others to judge):
-1- Chirone
-2- CG Wolfgang
-3- Murambi
Since these are attempts at a redesign of an existing character, and not a recreation of one
They are certainly not the best renders, character designs or presentations, but that wasn't " the assignment".

I hope that in future challenges, the challenge outline will be followed some more, again I know it's point of view /taste related and that you guys wanted to award the best work, on which I agree is Rocky Mills' work, it's just not a redesign, which was the main challenge outline

stwert 02-05-2011 09:29 PM

Mastone: First off, thanks for all the good comments on everyone's work. It's great when people take the time to go through all the entries and give helpful feedback.

That being said, I'd like to respectfully disagree with what you deem a lack of redesign. I think this is a pretty subjective criteria, and each person interpreted it to a different degree I think. Ultimately it is up to the judges to say whether the criteria were met or not.

Chirone did a great job incorporating transformers and pokemon elements, and I personally think you can't get much closer to "organic to mechanical" which was pretty much listed as an option in the original criteria. Tweetytunes was pretty clear on how he was re-interpreting his character (new costume, attitude etc.) Whether that's "enough" of a re-interpretation is again up to the judges. Rockymills was also clear on how the characters were modified (new clothes, weapons etc.)... again "enough"?? I think so... and obviously the judges did too. Great job.

As for me, well you have a fair point that I didn't post a picture (I missed that in the rules) but I assumed people would be familiar with Gordon Freeman. That was probably a poor assumption, and so I'll add a couple pictures to my thread so people know what I was going for. And if that's not enough of a redesign of a human character, well I don't know what is :happy:.

All that to say, I guess it's up to opinion, but we have to go with the judging, and I think RockyMills had a well deserved win.

daverave 02-05-2011 09:31 PM

A little unfare mastone, the word I would look at is "look" that can mean a number of things like clothing............dave

Gen 02-05-2011 09:58 PM

Correction, grats to Rocky, Neil and Stwert. :happy:

Bad reading on my part Stwert, didn't catch that the first time.

mastone 02-05-2011 10:31 PM

@stwert:
No I didn't know who Gordon Freeman is/was, I agree about it being a subjective thing/taste related which I mentioned several times, and I think Chirone did a terrific job.

@Daverave:
I don't think I am unfair, I haven't talked down anyones work ( at least tried not to) and about This:"... a new take or look of a game character ...", I think you have to see it like this take/look and in my opinion look in this context means revamp of a game character not simply putting on a different dress, but again this is just my opinion.

bullet1968 03-05-2011 01:21 AM

WELL DONE Rocky...for me it was a close between the 3 winners...I thought stwert may have pipped it but I must admit Rocky's was piss funny entry...and a good one...you all did really well and its good to see that there were quite a few entries...that is the main thing, taking part and in all having some fun.

cheers bullet

Chirone 03-05-2011 01:26 AM

congrats to you all Rocky, neil, and stwert!

i kind of figured rocky would be the winner, it's just so beautiful and full of awesome! well.. it was him or neil or stwert in my eyes! but rocky had the coolest/most completed presentation out of all of us.

thanks for your comments mastone! i made soo many time costing mistakes in that challenge.

would be nice to know what jay and david thought of it

David 03-05-2011 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tweetytunes (Post 318807)
Really - I had it so different in my head - me 3rd at the most - I thought stwert was going to be first for sure. Just setup the PC but will be sorting the rest of this model out some point this week.

Congrats on the full set. Gold, Silver and Bronze first time its happened.

Dave :)

--EDIT--

Well second time but still looks pretty cool :D

Chirone 03-05-2011 02:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 318847)
Congrats on the full set. Gold, Silver and Bronze first time its happened.

Dave :)

dango has all three :giggle:

David 03-05-2011 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chirone (Post 318848)
dango has all three :giggle:


Ah making the administrator of the site feel like an idiot, guess what you win :ninja:

Dave :)

CGWolfgang 03-05-2011 02:48 AM

Congradulations to the winners and great job to everyone who entered!

@Mastone: I appreciate the constructive critisizm. I've dabbled with getting into modeling way back in 2004 but it never took and so I stopped. Finally I came to the conclusion that although I might not make it a career I want to be great at this. So around 2009 I picked up Maya (it was the one my friend introduced me to) and have been pushing to learn all I can.

RockyMills_01 03-05-2011 06:26 AM

OMG!!! I actually cant believe I won!!
I honestly thought that stwert had this one.
Congrats to tweetytunes and Stwert
Thanks guys......drinks on me tonight!

@mastone: I understand what your saying. I repect your opinion but I do think you are being a bit unfair. I did indeed follow criteria.
"...I would like to see a new take or look of a game character of your choice that is already out there, you can style it/make it into whatever you like...."
I feel, I did exactly that.......and i did made it clear what I was planning to do in my thread. I even provided concept sketches on the final look of the characters before I even touched Maya. Even you yourself you had no issues. why didnt you voiced your concern at that initial stage?
Why wait till after the results?

tweetytunes 03-05-2011 08:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMills_01 (Post 318853)
Even you yourself you had no issues. why didnt you voiced your concern at that initial stage?
Why wait till after the results?

I think its because of an overall standard not just yours mate - I don`t think its a personal attack.


While I see many points in your post Mastone (I myself have felt in the past some rules were not followed, Steam-punk and Virtual city challenges are two that stick in my head), what Jay said were examples of idea`s of re-design.

Take transformers - OP is still 1) Leader (or ends up as it) 2) Red/Blue mix in color 3) Becomes a form of truck. Although there have been many different takes on that character now - in the end just a new costume. And it is there in the first line of the quote you used from Jay "I would like to see a new take or look of a game character of your choice that is already out there.

I thought Stwert`s won because he got 2 characters fused together and got a really cool final image. Although Rocky put a lot into his final image - I thought (like you) that it was just a change of cloths for the characters and not that cool as a re-design, but the work was spot on (really nice texture work and setup for final character), so for me Stwert came on top.

Chirone did put a lot of thought into changing the concept of his idea and did put a lot of thought into his idea and entered a entry he should be very proud off. I am surprised we did not see any sex-changed ideas as that has been talked about a lot on the different threads. But I think many of us saw the words "New Look" and went a different way to how you saw it, but it was apart of the rules.

There was many good ideas this month - just wished some more work was done on some entries, myself included and most of all - it was fun, with lots of support from everyone - which makes us all winners in the end - arrrrrrrr group hug.

Thankfully the next one has little rules and a lovly prize - so lets all get cracking.....

Quote:

Originally Posted by David (Post 318849)
Ah making the administrator of the site feel like an idiot, guess what you win :ninja:

Dave :)

Glad I did not have time to say it now - Hehe - But I still think I`m the first with 4 wins

Tweety

Jay 03-05-2011 09:30 AM

tweety; so modest mate....love it.

The judging is difficult on these things for sure.

and if I may. With regards to these challenges, the results are what they are and as the judges see fit at that time. It a competition. As with every forum we cant please every single person, but we do like to think we cater for most abilties and give a fair trial to those in the challenges.

nuff said on the matter.

next challenge is up so get in there!!!

Jay

tweetytunes 03-05-2011 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jay (Post 318865)
tweety; so modest mate....love it.

What it`s ture - I never thought mine was going to place - I had almost two weeks off as I sulked off to wales after not getting the job - But I`m so going to win the next one HEHEHEHE

s2-speedy 03-05-2011 12:45 PM

Congratulations on all who finished and especially to Rocky :) I thought Tweety was going to edge this one though a few weeks ago, although i never saw final entries until now.

Gutted I didnt have time to finish yet another comp. :( Hopefully the next 1 I can. :D

mastone 03-05-2011 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockyMills_01 (Post 318853)
...and i did made it clear what I was planning to do in my thread. I even provided concept sketches on the final look of the characters before I even touched Maya. Even you yourself you had no issues. why didnt you voiced your concern at that initial stage?
Why wait till after the results?..

Just a few short words and then I think it's best to leave it be, okay?
As Tweety rightly quessed it isn't personal( to anyone, judges and participants alike) and as an artpiece yours was the best;lighting staging and final composition and design were supreme ( not to say the amount of work you put in), when compared to the rest, but it didn't feel like a redesign ( at least not me )which has nothing to do with the quality of work you have displayed.
It's like holding a modeling competition and in the end being judged based on a final render

I haven't questioned it because I only looked at the challenge outline on friday when I picked my own project up again and because of time constraints focussed on the main criteria( or my interpretation of them).

But again just leave this be


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