Creck you found the one thing that I hate the most thats lips, always look like worms stuck to the face:)..................dave

And don't forget the surrounding hillsides, distant townships, the continent its set on and the planet and surrounding universe.

for what dj said dave just call me...I do that for a living. Looking good dave...nice work so far

cheers bullet

Thanks Bullet
Was looking at it for ages what was wrong tear ducts...............dave

Little update one ear still need tweeking............dave

you are insane :O nice work

Yes, sorry for no undates been ill will try to get back on it after the holidays..............dave

Nice stuff Dave!

That ear though!!! hehe. Needs to be brought forward a lot.

The side profile of the head seems odd too, The jaw bone maybe?.. but that could just be the ear throwing me off. The neck is too thick for sure (side profile).

Anyway, cool to see some organic stuff from ya :)

Thanks Mayaniac
I think its the reference that has the ear that far back but have done as you suggested, the neck was me forgetting to do it (old age).Done a little tweeking of the jaw.............dave
Edit:tweeked the jaw a little more

Hey Dave.

I still think the ear is set too far back. But it's because your ear is too large.

I've done paint-over with some suggestions.

The images speak for themselves. But let me know if anything needs clearing up.

awesome paint over mayaniac.

Sorry for no update been a bit unwell, playing about in mudbox for the texture for the GI mainly projections and clone stamp still a bit to do............dave

Edit:Thanks Mayaniac for the make over

Glad to see you back on it ;) face proportions look good to me dave, really looking forward to the final scene...

Good to see you back at it dave.

Thanks Creck and Pixal
Still sorting out the texture..............dave