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doodle 11-03-2003 06:08 PM

Does anyone get this -->
 
One of my college teachers seems to thing that 3D objets in a computer are not 3D:confused: :confused:

kbrown 11-03-2003 06:09 PM

eh? :)

adldesigner 11-03-2003 06:18 PM

Hmm, actually he´s somewhat right my dear friend, as objects we create in 3d programs are in fact 2d representations of 3d governed mathematical equations. You can´t actually grab your "goblin", or "Andrea Gail" with your hands right? you can only see it´s 2d representation either in the screen or the paper. Get my point?

doodle 11-03-2003 06:22 PM

yeah, i understand that, but unlike 2D, you can revolve your object 360 degrees. So i guess it kinda a virtual 3D

kbrown 11-03-2003 06:24 PM

Yeah, I gues it depends from what point of view you're looking at this. In computer's memory the 3D objects are calculated in real 3D space. There just aren't any devices available which could show them in real 3D :)

brian_ellebracht 11-03-2003 06:26 PM

YOu can buy 3d printers, that create a resin type material, that represents your model in true 3d, as in you can hold it and stuff. Its pretty cool. My school was supposed to get one, but it hasn't come it yet. Kind of like on toy soilders, but alittle different.
Brian

adldesigner 11-03-2003 06:27 PM

Perhaps, if you put it that way, however the real fact is, you´re actually simulating 3d (including the handling of such objects) by using 3d equations. Objects in the computer are not really 3d, they´re just numbers that give the ilussion of 3d (Which would render your perfectly coined term "virtual 3d" right), and which the compuetr uses so elegantly to output such excellents works of art as Gollum, or the piece of craps you might see in everyday-online-surfing as a 2d image.

adldesigner 11-03-2003 06:29 PM

Brian is actually right, Tupperware for example uses several of these machines to output prototypes. If I understand correctly, GM does also, by using a Robot that sculpts big chunks of foam into Cars. So actually 3d output IS possible, Not particularly feasibly actually, nor cost-efficient but it sure is fun.

adldesigner 11-03-2003 06:32 PM

Also, Cad-Cam programs are used throughout the manufacturing industry for output of real life objects. For example, Jesse James (West Wing Choppers?) hires a guy who makes the wheels for his bikes, and he uses a Cam machine to cut a predesigned CAD model into a template steel wheel. Pretty cool I would say.

kbrown 11-03-2003 06:36 PM

Now that you mention it I remember seeing one of those printers in a cad/cam trade show...

dbirider 11-03-2003 06:41 PM

I believe that they are 2d images also... because if you move your head around the computor screen, you are still only seing the same exact view of it. but if you have say a book, and you move your head around it, you see different vews of it all the way around.

adldesigner 11-03-2003 06:41 PM

http://www.minitech.com/hardware/hdwe_index.htm
Might be a link worth visiting.

LSphinx 11-03-2003 08:42 PM

guys,
I think that you can reach a real answer by using a philosophical point of view..
don't you think?

mtmckinley 11-03-2003 08:59 PM

I doubt it really matters...

wicket 12-03-2003 12:08 AM

My oppinion on this is... Is the glass half empty or half full?
It's the same kind of problem! It depends on how you look at it! It is 3D but not "real" you can't touch, taste, or smell. And for some of the stuff I've seen on this site I wouldn't want to! :D
That's my 2 cents on the situation! Later

kbrown 12-03-2003 12:21 AM

What is real? How do you define real? If real is what you can touch, taste, or smell then it is just electrical impulses interpreted by your brain. Ok ok... too much Matrix :p

I wonder how long does it take until someone really makes a widget with a bluetooth connection to your coumputer which you stick in your nose and you're in literally in the scene you created in Maya :)

How's that for next months challenge? :)

doodle 12-03-2003 01:05 AM

Maybe that could be the challenge for April 2055 :P

adldesigner 12-03-2003 03:28 AM

LOL

M 12-03-2003 03:41 AM

didnt have time to read it all.. but in my thoughts, 3d is a word that means 3 dimensions, now the world is 3d, but what your eyes see and interprite to the brain displays an image to you that is 2d. Monitors read 3d files and display on the monitor at 3d again. I personally think everything has 3 dimensions in real life, but you do not seem them as that. Its a weird topic though .

undseth 12-03-2003 07:03 AM

It's definitions on definitions on definitions on definition on.......

I say, life is what you make of it and this has (sadly) a double meaning to it.

adldesigner 12-03-2003 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by undseth
It's definitions on definitions on definitions on definition on.......

I say, life is what you make of it and this has (sadly) a double meaning to it.

WTF? LOL, this thread went AWOL some 5 posts ago.

doodle 12-03-2003 03:47 PM

a simple question...

...AWOL

Holycr*p, the AWOL bug just go me :banghead:

adldesigner 12-03-2003 03:54 PM

I don´t actually know what the hell it means, my english isn´t that good. I don´t even know how to explain the meaning I give to the word, but in spanish we say "patas arriba" as in "belly up", something like .. it just went crazy|dead or whatever.

Lol

doodle 12-03-2003 04:04 PM

AWOL= Crazy/Mad/Insane

adldesigner 12-03-2003 04:08 PM

Hehehe .. well, I didn´t got it so bad huh?

<adldesigner thinks about his english being far better than he thinks>

mtmckinley 12-03-2003 05:06 PM

AWOL - military term meaning "Away WithOut Leave." Means a soldier has left without permission.

adldesigner 12-03-2003 05:14 PM

Which would render him Crazy right? ;)


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