thanks i'll give it a go, but about making the clothes ncloth, can i do this after binding and weighting? I didnt know this, what did you mean by the nucleus takes over the simulation at the expense...

cheers, unfortunately i thought as much, anyone know about any good skinning tutorials that would be appropriate.

I know another skinning question, I am not sure about how to go about skinning a character that i have modeled clothes for. After i have rigged and smooth skinned do i have to paint weights for body...