like i said before i mainly need want to learn how to model muscle placements with this excersize.. that fact that i'm modeling a human head that i'm getting pretty proud of is just a bonus... i gave him kind of an angry look now.. but i'm not really happy with how i tweaked the cheekbones.. work on that a bit more... i dont mean to advertise here.. but if anyone has the chance to check out kurts Ninja tutorial i definitely recommend it