Hey RC Well I have been in looking but not too many comments at the moment as I am soooooooo busy on my project, time is precious at the moment. I have another character coming up soon so I'll post then. I must say though the work here is really coming up, ( I dont wish to sound patronising when I say this) but it really is, its like everyone has stepped up a gear in the last couple of months. Apart from study faces etc, also sorting out skin using SubSurface Scattering techniques!! Veeerrry coooll!!! Anyway mustn't waste somebody elses post See you soon dudes _J