Hey Velusion Ok dude no worries, it was looking pretty mean with those joints there for a bit. Glad its been tamed. As for you influences I usually use between 2 and 3 and that works quite comfortably. I do a fair bit of character stuff so I know what you mean. Maybe try some blend shape correcting as well for future projects thats helps alot too, I find that works great for me too. Anyway back to work _J