Ok, heres some updates. I restarted all over again, dont think that this model is what im going for either, used mhcannon's pic this time. Again, thx everyone, I think I might even do three evil knights in the game now. Sorda along the story line of each representing a different evil. Still thinking though. But please give some C&C on this. I know it probably wasent modeled right. Oh, and jango, what is that 20 sided poly thing you were talking about? Thx to mhcannon for the awsome pic, good job. Your pretty sweet. :attention: