Thanks Kurt,

Based on your response I thought I'd give it a go trying to use the create poly tool, instead of the plane primitive and refine the mesh from there..

I took up the challenge to detail out the guns in polys instead of nurbs adding some more detail than in the tut. It went not to bad took me just over 30 min for guns..It would take someone longer but I use MJ poly tools script which really speeds up the poly process by selecting rings and loops and having smart splits on the mesh..

anyways here's a couple views of the gun and the wire of the wing before and after subd






base mesh


subd mesh


let me know your comments