ok.thanks for your post. I agree. Dont become too attached to one program but is maya popular in design now adays? I have seen Nokia use it, but if there is only the experts who can get a job using Maya then i guess i have my work cut out. I have done animation modeling etc...but i know to work in the industry you need to be the 'bee's knees'. Do you know of any companies or consultancies that only want...well accept intermediete experience? ...so you can tune my knowledge. It seeems quite hard to establish yourself. Like most jobs, they ask for experience, but as most jobs ask for experience, but there are little wiliing to offer experince...if i am making sense....