Well its true, I started this char a bit before the contest. Not that much before I got the e-mail about it though. I waited a while to post also. I was thinking it was lighting and rendering that we would be judged on. I won't use him. I will come up with something else as a replacement for him. I think I have enough time. If not I don't mind trying anway. No hard feelings I hope. Here is a concept sketch of the monster, that I will be designing and some reference material. mayafreak3