While nut kicking is an amusing past-time, I'll take a raincheck. As a newbie, your guess is as good as mine. I thought the tutorial only mentioned the middle mouse button. The Digital Tutors Basics didn't use the snapping feature, and this is only my second tutorial. I don't use the three handed techniques in Max. I just click the snap button. So LMB huh? I'll give it a shot. Thanks. As for the nut kicking, will next Thursday at 9:15 work for you? I can squeeze you in between an eye poking and a nasty Indian burn.