Its all about how bad you want it and about planning a course of action. Bust your ass and eat breath and sleep what you want and you have every chance of making it happen at any age. A dude after my own heart!! I started dabbling in 3d at 25 on and off as I was really into PS big time. But then I saw some spheres rendered on a chequer background, you know that ol' number. The rest is now stuff of legend...:bandit: Jay (now aged 36)