Hey every one just thought I would post my progress for tonight, Thanks for the comment Shader, I am not very good at this maya thing yet, and I think this is my first more realistic looking model. as far as the poly count goes, I am sure that it has alot of polys. I am not to worried about it though, I am building this stuff on a brand new Toshiba Satellite with a duel 3.5 HP proccessor and 2 gigs of ram so I think I will be okay for a little while, but I am trying to push this thing to see just how far I can get with it before it starts to give problems, so far so good. any ways here you go. Thanks for the comments!!! Leland Webb Webb Creative Arts