ok. just finished working through the dog tut (while at work) and managed to get a mangled dog figure out of it (progress). Man this stuff is hard. I was bustin' a brain cell figuring it out. Is the stuff in the VIP section harder than the free tuts? I'm still working up the courage to use my new credit card on-line (my only one). I have a pretty extensive background on Photoshop so I though I would try my hand at MAYA. Man they are nothing alike. There's like a million different things you have to learn before you can mutate. I have seen positive results in my efforts (no matter how elementary they may seem so (boss is coming. gots to go)