Originally posted by varley hey MF....awesome job, looks great....thats really a picture you took right???? commmooooon!!! :bow: Thanks gster123.. all these nice comments.. wow Originally posted by gster123 Dude thats so mint, i'm sure your taking a picture and making it look like a 3d image!!!!! So damm good. You should do a tut or somethingon gettin the disp maps as well as making hdri's and rendering, and modeling and........... Hehe, thanks man I appreciate the kind words..I'd be happy to do tutorials.... most of this rendering business is recent knowledge for me.. I'm finding Mental Ray can be very tricky. I'll post some of my shader networks and stuff.. in this thread later on. here is my latest render.. 1000 fg rays hdri 1 object light (cylinder) mayafreak3