cool. man. thanks fr the kind words but i think it will be some time before i can grasp animation. thaks for the crit on the walk. ill to try improve on the next ones. ill do some jumping exercices next. here is walk 2 im not sure how to get rid of the popping that happens when its on a loop cycle... or stop the weird popping period :blush: https://media.putfile.com/walk2