Hello, A little update for you. I have tried to address the proportions of my head., and think it is looking a bit better, thanks for the advice guys. I have had a stab at the ears, and probably introduced some more problems in the process. I have had trouble with ears before,(oliphant tut) and seem to have learnt a few tricks there. Its still a bit of a bugger though, maybe extruding from a base set of polys might be a better way for me. Hmmm. [IMG]/Users/michaelgazley/Desktop/Picture 4.png[/IMG]