Originally posted by jhubbard nah nvidia mobo drivers are the worst that exist they are pretty much a virus with a brand name, i h8 nvidia for the price they dont touch ATI cards, its been proven. I use nVidia nForce2 drivers all the time, they work like a charm. If you like ATI -- okay... but 1) Claiming videocards suck due to motherboard drivers makes no sense, and 2) nVidia shaderpipes are actually more powerful than ATI's... ATI just puts more of them on them and clocks them up higher to balance out. nVidia's sitting on plenty of technology right now... ATI too, but I think less than nVidia at the moment (though ATI's eDRAM may make a switch depending on how they implement it consumer-grade.) Both Radeons and GeForces(most) can be converted to their FireGL/Quadro counterparts via either hardware flash or nVstrap drivers (google RivaTuner) being that both cards are actually their high-end counterparts... driver-locked out of all the professional functions (both to speed up the system with the smaller driver size and to force an extra 300$ to unlock the cards) Edit!!!!: https://forum.simplymaya.com/showthre...threadid=17109 My little tutorial on how to PCIID-swap a GeForce (doesn't work with any 7800-line, and some 6X00-lines, and some 3rd party (ASUS for example) boards... check the Rivatuner forums to see if your card's compatible)