You hit the nail on the head blazer you can create images like above in 5min but the good thing is they seem to amaze ppl even tho they are so easy to make. Now as i can get into the advanced side of vue, things dont take 5min anymore, like using displacement from real terrains from arround the world creating my own tree and rock textures. Gets a bit more complicated then. But all in all its a great program.

Like you said about rendertimes..I think the above image took around 7hrs lol.