thanks for all your help. I have gotten this far ...having some issues duplicating one side but working on that . The vertices i had to delete in one whole area and it fixed itself. wooho ..here is an update. I am happy with overall shape. Any C and C is always appreciated.

Tim , what does the W do ? i didnt see it do anything ?

tick135 , merge edge tools ? i have to look that one up . Not sure how to use it . But like i said the delete vertices worked hehhe then I went to vertices face and seen that spot was at the correct shape then

here is an update. Now how to work in the details.

here is a back view