Wow look at this lot!! thank you guys... Rostoons: Yeah I have a design, its all drawn up in pencil and shaded, I'm actually doing a color version in PS at the moment which will go on my site once its done. Its a similar design to the older version of the girl I did before, but this is going to be seriously slicker in every aspect- I can tell you with confidence!! heres the design I did in pen at work whilst waiting for renders, the final is much tidier and the pose is alot more refined too. Cheers for now Jay