Sounds good......and sorry to bother everyone, but I got one more question that I asked in another area. But I have heard that render time for NURBS and Sub Div's in animations are crazy long (especially with it running 30 frames per second). Even with render layers, how long would you estimate for render time to be for, let's say, a 30 second long animation (about the length of a cut scene)? my cpu is not the best and a 3 second fire animation that i did of this site took me 12 hrs and it still didnt finish all the way. i am also useing PLE.