This an update before I go to bed. I really dont like using max but damn the chamfer is great for edges. Wow its real good for making close edges because I kinda bevels the edges so you dont have to go re ordering them right after it does it for you. Great tool, to bad maya doesnt have chanfer the way it works on max. Mayas is only for verts and it doesnt work half as good. o well enough of my blabering heres my update