Oh thanks alot , now I see where I really got some fixing to do on the legs lol and as for the ground meat look that made me sick sometimes lookin at it for some reason. I got the first one from a spider and then I dunno how I got it looking like that as I went on but now I'm trying to work on a human model with big inspiration from final fantasy advent child. cloud character but I need so so so much more skill lol but I'll show my progress once I get started.