Arran, very sound advice mate. the lighting effect?? too true now i look at it, but in a way it was what they wanted so i hope the exaggerated effect goes down OK. The paining, yes I did make it paintable and today i am going to do a few of my tuts i did before to see what i have done wrong or if the graphics card wasn't happy with the screen capture program i installed, gone now, decided i didn't need it. Long story.

the urinals, yes, will have to live with it, tomorrow night it all goes on to green screen, blue i think actually, we're using digital not film.

thanks for the crit.