Thanks Guys mmoore: yeah more to come very soon PBman: I'll try and run thru the rig process as best possible once I get there. Ritchie the Brit: Yeah I know about the feet. Its designed this way because when you have shoes on your feet are supported either side and all around, I have scenes for her with her boots off as well so the feet need to be relaxed for those, hence showing thru the boots. I said I'll do some renders during the week, so be patient, but I can assure during the test renders shes looking good Cheers for now Jay