Thats one way to do I guess, lol. When I come across problems, like for say......... windows, I normally end up reformatting then re-installing. But after modelling for X amount of years I found that the is more than one solution to a problem. And to be honest, if you spend that much time on a model, I wouldn't fancy deleting it then starting again, or even part of it.

But that problem bruce was getting sounds like the problem I was having, it doesn't mention anything about normals, so who would have thought that was where the problem lies. Well thatswas the problem in my case anyhoo.

Regards

Wraithe